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[19:45] * Now talking in #osdf

b" [19:45] * Topic is 'The Open Source Democracy Foundation || http://www.theosdf.org | http://reddit.com/r/rpac'"

b' [19:45] * Topic set by moparx on Monday, 06 December 2010 at 23:49:03'

b' [19:45] * Statistics: 2 Ops, 6 Users (Total: 8)'

b' [19:45] * ChanServ sets mode +o legendairy'

b" [19:45] <moparx> hey legendairy"

b" [19:45] <legendairy> Hey, how's it going?"

b" [19:46] <moparx> Not too bad."

b" [19:48] <legendairy> Cool, cool."

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b" [20:52] <pardonmyfranton> hey everyone"

b" [20:52] <pardonmyfranton> we'll get started in about 10 mins"

b" [20:55] <moparx> pardonmyfranton: reminder - you wanted to talk about a podcast tonight."

b" [20:55] <pardonmyfranton> haha, thank you!"

b" [20:56] <pardonmyfranton> okay, tell me what you guys think..."

b" [20:56] <pardonmyfranton> I have a document with all of our annoucements"

b" [20:57] <TheRealToast> whoa, what's happening?"

b" [20:57] <TheRealToast> oh, and hi all. Happy new year."

b" [20:57] <pardonmyfranton> I could give you guys all the link and you wouldn't have to wait to read what I cut/paste"

b" [20:57] <pardonmyfranton> (and I'd include the text of the doc on the the logs"

b" [20:57] <pardonmyfranton> )"

b" [20:57] <pardonmyfranton> or just do it our normal way"

b" [20:58] <criswell> on the one hand, it'd be easier to just read direct from the link... on the other hand, cut/paste ensures everyone is on the same page- I could go either way"

b" [20:58] <pardonmyfranton> I'll just cut/paste"

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b" [21:02] <pardonmyfranton> here's a question: do you guys still find these meetings useful?"

b" [21:02] <moparx> It's the best way to get everyone in one place."

b" [21:02] <criswell> we've just had a couple of holidays... it's kind of hard to determine usefulless or lack-thereof immediately after holidays"

b" [21:03] <moparx> agreed"

b" [21:03] <pardonmyfranton> but as opposed to sending a link and saying: here's everything we're doing!"

b" [21:03] <pardonmyfranton> I just want to make sure no one ever feels like their time is being wasted"

b" [21:04] <biblianthrope> i don't like irc for several reasons, but i think it might be the best we have at this point. for the current task of connecting people all over the continent, anyway"

b" [21:04] <moparx> I don't think we are wasting time."

b" [21:04] <criswell> in true open-source fashion, if people's times were being wasted, they'd just stop showing up :-)"

b" [21:04] <pardonmyfranton> haha, true"

b" [21:04] <moparx> that is true"

b" [21:04] <pardonmyfranton> kind of a sad way to go out, though"

b" [21:04] <pardonmyfranton> Tuesday @ 6pm...crickets"

b" [21:05] <pardonmyfranton> okay, speaking of not wasting time, let's get started"

b" [21:05] * moparx has changed the topic to 'The Open Source Democracy Foundation || http://theosdf.org | http://reddit.com/r/rpac | [MEETING IN PROGRESS]'"

b" [21:05] <pardonmyfranton> Google doc of announcements: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ShT_AHGRnA8Tu-lGOPbBTxw7P30wINyT1uqzvMl0Wnw/edit?hl=en&authkey=CJnfuIAN"

b" [21:05] <pardonmyfranton> Welcome! This discussion is moderated. While we don't want to make it all about the rules and procedure we do ask you follow some simple guidelines. When you wish to speak please type: !!! I'll be the moderator. Please wait for me to select you to speak. When you are done please type: +++ To keep things moving along and the meeting productive we ask you follow these simple steps."

b" [21:06] <pardonmyfranton> I want to catch everyone up to speed. We\xe2\x80\x99re going to be busy:"

b" [21:06] <pardonmyfranton> 1) We have an album fundraiser going on: http://www.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/evkps/compile_from_source_2011_a_musical_interweb/"

b" [21:06] <pardonmyfranton> 2) We\xe2\x80\x99ve started Round 2 of our Logo Proposals: http://www.theundermine.info/wiki/index.php/OSDF_Graphic_Resources"

b" [21:06] <pardonmyfranton> 3) Starting next week, we\xe2\x80\x99re going to start making and sending Valentines to Al Franken and a TBD Republican Rep: http://forum.theosdf.org/index.php?topic=17.0"

b" [21:06] <pardonmyfranton> 4) I\xe2\x80\x99m talking to Free Press on Thursday to see what our next move will be: http://www.reddit.com/r/rpac/comments/ewb94/the_osdf_is_talking_with_free_press_this_week/"

b" [21:06] <pardonmyfranton> 5) There is a lot more content on the Wiki: http://www.theundermine.info/wiki/index.php/Main_Page ...Including names and experience of everyone who\xe2\x80\x99s volunteered:http://www.theundermine.info/wiki/index.php/Volunteer_Contact_Info If you like to get in contact with anyone, shoot and email to volunteer@theosdf.org and we\xe2\x80\x99ll put people in touch."

b" [21:07] <pardonmyfranton> 6) We\xe2\x80\x99re going to start up a (probably bi-monthly) podcast. David is going to be heading that up. I'll ask David to share after annoucements."

b" [21:07] <pardonmyfranton> 7) On Friday, myself and perhaps a few others are going to have a conversation with National Field to see if their system could maybe fit our needs: http://nationalfield.org/product/ We would definitely like to get everything on one interface."

b" [21:07] <pardonmyfranton> He\xe2\x80\x99ll be following up with me tomorrow with more detailed plans: http://forum.theosdf.org/index.php?topic=16.0"

b" [21:07] <pardonmyfranton> ooops: 8) Alex, the head of our IRL/College organizing is putting together organizers for schools and regions."

b" [21:08] <pardonmyfranton> 9) Our Policy Team is getting rolling for the new year, you can see here where they are headed: http://forum.theosdf.org/index.php?topic=22.0"

b" [21:08] <pardonmyfranton> 10) I\xe2\x80\x99m going to send an email to NYU Journalism Professor, Jay Rosen with some interview questions for my HuffPo blog. If you\xe2\x80\x99d like to comment, please do: http://www.reddit.com/r/rpac/comments/et6dn/soliciting_questions_for_professor_jay_rosen_for/"

b" [21:08] <pardonmyfranton> 11) John, our blog editor-and-chief has put a call out for blog submissions: http://www.reddit.com/r/rpac/comments/ew8tn/osdf_needs_your_writing/"

b" [21:08] <pardonmyfranton> 12) If anyone has video ideas, this is the place to put them: http://www.theundermine.info/wiki/index.php/Video_Resources"

b" [21:08] <pardonmyfranton> 13) I had a conversation with a DC lobbyist the other day about how the OSDF can be influential and really have an impact."

b" [21:09] <pardonmyfranton> look here for those: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ShT_AHGRnA8Tu-lGOPbBTxw7P30wINyT1uqzvMl0Wnw/edit?hl=en&authkey=CJnfuIAN"

b" [21:09] <pardonmyfranton> 14) Once again, the prospect of adding another issue has been brought up. It originated here: http://www.reddit.com/r/rpac/comments/eq34j/so_now_what/"

b" [21:10] <pardonmyfranton> a more detailed outline is, again, here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ShT_AHGRnA8Tu-lGOPbBTxw7P30wINyT1uqzvMl0Wnw/edit?hl=en&authkey=CJnfuIAN"

b" [21:10] <pardonmyfranton> that's it--only 14 announcements!"

b" [21:10] <pardonmyfranton> first, if David is here, I'd like him to share his thoughts on the podcast+++"

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b" [21:11] <pardonmyfranton> hmmm, maybe he's not in"

b" [21:12] <pardonmyfranton> do we have any heads up departments with updates?+++"

b" [21:12] <biblianthrope> !!!"

b" [21:12] <pardonmyfranton> biblianthrope:"

b" [21:12] <RobFundAndHellRa> my connection is slow, sorry if I miss anything"

b' [21:13] <biblianthrope> I don\'t have a whole lot to update at this moment, but I would like to put out a call for interested volunteers to do some of the "reddit monitoring" that I\'ve been doing'

b" [21:14] <biblianthrope> specifically, this means keeping tabs on the Net Neutrality-related discussions that happen (and there are tons), and saving the best for more coordinated outreach methods"

b" [21:15] <biblianthrope> if there are any interested parties, i can explain more"

b" [21:15] <biblianthrope> and i will put out a call to the rest of the volunteers via email as well"

b" [21:15] <biblianthrope> +++"

b" [21:15] <pardonmyfranton> any tech people with updates?+++"

b" [21:15] <moparx> !!!"

b" [21:15] <pardonmyfranton> moparx:"

b" [21:16] <moparx> - Drupal 7 comes out tomorrow so we will be looking into upgrading that soon."

b" [21:16] <moparx> - I'll be moving the Wiki to wiki.theosdf.org sometime soon."

b" [21:17] <moparx> and There is an OSDF account and group on Identi.ca now in case anyone uses that site"

b" [21:17] <moparx> +++"

b" [21:17] <zeto28> !!!"

b" [21:17] <pardonmyfranton> zeto28:"

b" [21:17] <zeto28> will the wiki be migrated to a new server, or will you just make a DNS/HTTP redirect?+++"

b" [21:18] <moparx> migration"

b" [21:18] <moparx> +++"

b" [21:18] <pardonmyfranton> obviously, there were lots of announcements--if there are any questions that can't wait for a comment on /rpac or the forum, the floor is open+++"

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b" [21:19] <muggafugga> hi"

b" [21:19] <legendairy> !!!"

b" [21:19] <pardonmyfranton> legendairy:"

b" [21:19] <legendairy> Hey everyone, just a quick update from the finance side of things."

b" [21:20] <legendairy> We're working on getting a bank account running for our outfit, but thanks to the Patriot Act, it's a lot more complicated than we'd like."

b" [21:21] <legendairy> However, we are pursuing an account with either CitiBank or Bank of America and it should be up and running in a very short time. We'll be able to take donations as soon as that goes live.+++"

b" [21:21] <pardonmyfranton> if anyone ever has a suggest, please do not hesitate to email or ping me..."

b" [21:22] <frewsxcv> meeting happening?"

b" [21:22] <pardonmyfranton> I want to make sure silence isn't indifference"

b" [21:23] <biblianthrope> !!! was there an open question? +++"

b" [21:23] <criswell> !!!"

b" [21:23] <pardonmyfranton> (I opened the floor)"

b" [21:23] <pardonmyfranton> criswell:"

b" [21:24] <criswell> I was just curious (because I'm an instigator :-) what the logic was behind CitiBank/BofA as possible choices? (if I'm opening a wound, feel free to have 'no comment' be the answer)+++"

b" [21:25] <pardonmyfranton> legendairy, that's you, sir"

b" [21:25] <muggafugga> !!!did you cover the volunteer resources people are making available yet?+++"

b" [21:26] <pardonmyfranton> muggafugga: pardonmyfranton: 5) There is a lot more content on the Wiki: http://www.theundermine.info/wiki/index.php/Main_Page ...Including names and experience of everyone who\xe2\x80\x99s volunteered:http://www.theundermine.info/wiki/index.php/Volunteer_Contact_Info If you like to get in contact with anyone, shoot and email to volunteer@theosdf.org and we\xe2\x80\x99ll put people in touch.+++"

b" [21:27] <pardonmyfranton> just in case Legendairy went AFK, the choice of bank was just based on what would be best for a non-profit corp. based in MA"

b" [21:28] <legendairy> National reach, easiest to start an account, FDIC insurance, attractive offers for non-profits (low rates, few minimal account balance restrictions, low transaction costs)."

b" [21:28] <frewsxcv> !!!what is the bank for?+++"

b" [21:28] <legendairy> At least, those were the major points. We wanted to go with HSBC, but they didn't have an account to suit our purposes. I also would have liked a Credit Union, but those aren't quite as great for small business orgs.+++"

b" [21:28] <criswell> !!!okay, just wanted you to be aware of possible connections to anti-net-neutrality lobbying firms :-) +++"

b" [21:29] <legendairy> If the bank interferes with our account because they don't approve of our political stance, I'm certain we'll have a wonderful lawsuit to gain all sorts of coverage. +++"

b" [21:29] <legendairy> The bank is so that we can accept contributions. +++"

b" [21:30] <criswell> !!!then pick bank of america :-D+++"

b" [21:30] <frewsxcv> !!! why do we need a bank? can we not use USAA? +++"

b" [21:31] <legendairy> I am not a member of the military.+++"

b" [21:31] <frewsxcv> !!! you don't need to be a member of the military for some of their services +++"

b" [21:31] <TheRealToast_> !!!"

b" [21:31] <pardonmyfranton> TheRealToast:"

b" [21:32] <legendairy> Frew, that's true. However, we are registering as a corporation with a Employer Identification Number, and so we cannot open a simple personal banking account.+++"

b" [21:32] <muggafugga> !!!"

b" [21:32] <TheRealToast_> Typing !!! And proceeding to speak defeats the purpose of using !!!"

b" [21:32] <TheRealToast_> +++"

b" [21:32] <pardonmyfranton> thank you toast"

b" [21:32] <pardonmyfranton> muggafugga:"

b" [21:33] <muggafugga> i have a lot of isp performance data available, how can i get on the volunteer page?"

b" [21:34] <pardonmyfranton> http://www.theundermine.info/wiki/index.php/Volunteer_Resources +++"

b" [21:34] <muggafugga> +++"

b" [21:34] <legendairy> !!!"

b" [21:34] <pardonmyfranton> legendairy:"

b" [21:36] <legendairy> If anyone has any further questions, please do not hesitate to e-mail me or post on the forum under the Finance discussion heading. I would be glad to field all questions and comments, and suggestions are always considered above all. After all, this is your organization. +++"

b" [21:37] <biblianthrope> !!!"

b" [21:37] <pardonmyfranton> biblianthrope:"

b" [21:37] <biblianthrope> i can't quite parse what muggafugga was saying about ISP performance data"

b" [21:37] <biblianthrope> muggafugga, would you mind elaborating? +++"

b" [21:38] <muggafugga> sure"

b" [21:39] <muggafugga> its actualy my emplyers data and i would need to speak with them before making any commitments, but if its something that could be used in a constructive way i think they would be fine with it"

b" [21:40] <muggafugga> we run bit torrent trackers and provide download services to publishers"

b" [21:40] <muggafugga> i manage a bi system where we do all of our analytics"

b" [21:41] <muggafugga> is there anything in particular you are curious about?"

b" [21:42] <pardonmyfranton> may I table more detailed discussion, for the moment?+++"

b" [21:42] <biblianthrope> looks like reddit is getting ddos'd or i would link to the post, but is that part of the conversation about what ISPs are available throughout the US and their bandwidth share, so to speak?"

b" [21:42] <biblianthrope> oh"

b" [21:42] <biblianthrope> sure"

b" [21:42] <frewsxcv> !!! (reddit is up for me) +++"

b" [21:43] <biblianthrope> (yeah, mine JUST came back)"

b" [21:43] <pardonmyfranton> are there any other matter for official discussion? We can move to more informal conversation after the meeting adjourns+++"

b" [21:43] <TheRealToast_> !!!"

b" [21:44] <TheRealToast_> Apart from migration to drupal 7 and theming, how ready is drupal to beco"

b" [21:44] <TheRealToast_> Sorry, small keyboard"

b" [21:45] <TheRealToast_> ...becoming the active cms? (didn't mean to hit return back there)"

b" [21:45] <TheRealToast_> +++"

b" [21:46] <pardonmyfranton> unfortunately, Andrew isn't here, but I think he'd have the best answer"

b" [21:46] <moparx> !!!"

b" [21:46] <pardonmyfranton> moparx:"

b" [21:46] <moparx> On the tech side the drupal install is ready to go aside from civicrm and a theme"

b" [21:46] <moparx> +++"

b" [21:47] <pardonmyfranton> anything else?+++"

b" [21:48] <pardonmyfranton> all right then, I move to adjourn+++"

b" [21:48] <biblianthrope> second"

b" [21:48] <moparx> agreed"

b" [21:48] <TheRealToast_> Bam!"

b" [21:49] <zeto28> k"

b" [21:49] <pardonmyfranton> meeting adjourned"

b" [21:49] * moparx has changed the topic to 'The Open Source Democracy Foundation || http://theosdf.org | http://reddit.com/r/rpac'"

b" [21:49] <pardonmyfranton> log?"

b" [21:49] <criswell> I can get you one if you need it"

b' [21:49] * criswell logs everything, in every channel he is in'

b" [21:49] <pardonmyfranton> it's just needs to get on the site"

b" [21:50] <criswell> right... want mine?"

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b" [21:50] <criswell> unless someone else has something cleaner formatted (mine is straight text from irssi)"

b" [21:51] <pardonmyfranton> yeah, sure: egeller@theosdf.org"

b" [21:52] <pardonmyfranton> so, if you're committed enough sit through these meetings, then I ask you to comment on some stuff from the announcements"

b" [21:52] <pardonmyfranton> make your voice heard!"

b" [21:52] <frewsxcv> !!!"

b" [21:53] <pardonmyfranton> you can just chat freely"

b" [21:53] <frewsxcv> ah okay"

b" [21:53] <pardonmyfranton> now that the meeting is out"

b" [21:53] <frewsxcv> do we have any projects started?"

b" [21:54] <pardonmyfranton> technical or otherwise?"

b" [21:54] <frewsxcv> technical. programming projects?"

b" [21:54] <pardonmyfranton> http://www.theundermine.info/wiki/index.php/Main_Page"

b' [21:55] <pardonmyfranton> "contributing code"'

b" [21:55] <pardonmyfranton> content*"

b' [21:55] <pardonmyfranton> "drupal config"'

b" [21:55] <pardonmyfranton> and if you have any ideas on something you want to work on, let me know and let's get them going"

b" [21:56] <zeto28> I have a question regarding the National Field thing"

b" [21:56] <criswell> erm... the #osdf log file did this to my terminal http://i.imgur.com/rSaII.png"

b" [21:56] <criswell> pardonmyfranton: may take me a bit :-/"

b" [21:57] <pardonmyfranton> go for it"

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